Saturday, August 06, 2005

Was It Necessary?

"If you're thinking about casualties, think about Okinawa. More people were killed there than in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki."

Including an uncle of mine. Another uncle, who survived WWII (bombing the heck out of Germany instead of following Mahatma Gandhi's dreadful advice to allow ourselves to be slaughtered), saw action in Korea when he was not allowed to bomb the munitions factory that he, the navigator, could SEE because it was above an imaginary line. He retired because they were doing the same thing in Vietnam.

Of course, according to Gandhi, the Jews in WWII should have thrown themselves off cliffs.

It is too bad the bomb didn't end all wars. With such horror, you'd think maybe it could. But war is war and IS horrific. It is supposed to be, so we won't engage in it. But there are people and countries and times when, yes, it is necessary. And when it is, it isn't supposed to be pretty.

It is supposed to be won.

15 comments:

olympiada said...

Hello Contrary Goddess, I came in off Mad Cap Mum's site. My name is Olympiada. I have a blog, if you are interested. I would like to be a farm wife and a lover and all those things you are, but the sad fact of the matter is I am a suburban single mother, albeit in one of the 10 best places to live in the USA.
At any rate, I was wondering, what prompted that post? I have been seeing a lot of references to Gandhi lately...

the Contrary Goddess said...

Hiroshima. (can anyone else see me shaking my head in disbelief here?)

H. Stallard said...

August 6, 1945 Hiroshima and Little Boy...August 9, 1945 Nagasaki and Fat Man.

Those who do not remember History are doomed to repeat it!

the Contrary Goddess said...

some people are doomed to the same mistakes again and again.

Ah, but H, you should have reminded me the fair was this week -- I might could have come over! Maybe next year, huh?

docjim505 said...

Good post. Came here from Dan Trabue's site (just finished replying to some comments there). I admire people that firmly believe in and practice non-violence, as I believe that this is what Christ intended. Unfortunately, they are VERY few in number. So, until the non-violent men greatly outnumber the violent men, I say that we need to keep our powder dry, our swords sharpened, and our Bombs stockpiled.

the Contrary Goddess said...

Good to see you DocJim. I enjoyed your comments over yonder (www.paynehollow.blogspot.com if others are interested).

I am not a pacifist. I don't believe in pacifism. I don't believe Jesus was a pacifist. I believe pacifism encourages violence. I believe a well-armed society is a polite society. And the highest reason to maintain arms is to keep the government in line. No Tiennamen Square's for me.

OF COURSE, peace is preferable. No society has ever enjoyed peace that was unwilling to go to war.

And people who would not defend themselves or their children . . . well, I have trouble finding words here . . . you are good with them so perhaps you can help.

olympiada said...

I am well aware of Nagasaki, I share a birthday with it, and I am well aware of the quote "those who do not know there own history are doomed to repeat it", one of my high school counselor's drilled that into me. I liberated my self from high school. I did not like the Eurocentric textbooks.

the Contrary Goddess said...

Evidently, you liberated yourself from being able to make connections. Or you are unable to ask the question you wish to. Or something.

Those quotes about Jews throwing themselves off cliffs, or GB capitulating to Hitler, are not the most popular Gandhian quotes, but the most revealing.

I am not an enemy of peace, but a participant of the unexpected peace

olympiada said...

What do you mean evidently I liberated myself from being able to make connections?

olympiada said...

By the way, I detect a slight condescending tone towards me. If you would rather I not post on your blog, let me know.

the Contrary Goddess said...
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the Contrary Goddess said...

Naw, you are welcome here, but I may say things you don't like. I've read your blog. Mostly, I tend to be humorous which doesn't actually translate well with folks who can't hear my voice in my writing. Luckily a lot of people can.

And sometimes, of course, I am a smart ass.

the Contrary Goddess said...

Husband cleared his throat and said, "It says 'Contrary' on the handle!"

gawd, gotta love that man.

Jim said...
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Jim said...

"Contrary" and probably stubborn as a bull too!;~)

I know something about Taurus, the most highly compatible astrological sign to my very watery triple Scorpio.

Taurus is often contrary and outspoken which, I believe, is a very good thing!