tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post115454356551269819..comments2023-09-01T05:13:19.649-04:00Comments on the Contrary Goddess: Be The ChangeCGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04542303804886924280noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1155080397643180812006-08-08T19:39:00.000-04:002006-08-08T19:39:00.000-04:00Rebecca:"I'd hesitate to tell a fifth generation A...Rebecca:"I'd hesitate to tell a fifth generation Allegheny coal miner that his pronunciation is due to "ignorance and arrogance," <BR/><BR/>Note to any Allegheny coal miners who happen to be reading this blog: your mispronunciation of Appalachia is due to ignorance and arrogance.<BR/><BR/>The use of the word Appalachia in reference to an area or the mountainrange anything north of the southern Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1155073262322335362006-08-08T17:41:00.000-04:002006-08-08T17:41:00.000-04:00"The natural Anglicizing of the word gives you "Ap..."The natural Anglicizing of the word gives you "Apple-at-cha". The Northern pronunciation is due to ignorance and arrogance but has no historical nor cultural basis."<BR/><BR/>I'd hesitate to tell a fifth generation Allegheny coal miner that his pronunciation is due to "ignorance and arrogance," but I am assuming that your hostility is due to the accents of outsiders coming to tell you what Rebecca Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06494730619850791609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1155041732466650222006-08-08T08:55:00.000-04:002006-08-08T08:55:00.000-04:00Go Eleu!Go Eleu!CGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04542303804886924280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1155006344820970152006-08-07T23:05:00.000-04:002006-08-07T23:05:00.000-04:00RC:"The Appalachian Mountains run all the way up t...RC:"The Appalachian Mountains run all the way up through Canada, under water, and out to Newfoundland, according to Maurice Brooks'"<BR/><BR/>Geologically perhaps, but not culturally. Nor historically. <BR/><BR/>The guides with De Soto used the Mobilian Trade Language in which a tribe in northern Florida was refered to as the Apalachee (all three <EM>a</EM>'s are pronounces as in <EM>father</Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154970161883635972006-08-07T13:02:00.000-04:002006-08-07T13:02:00.000-04:00That long A/short A Appalachia thing seems to be a...That long A/short A Appalachia thing seems to be a Mason-Dixon line issue. People in the Pennsylvania Alleghenies call their mountains Appal-ay-chia, while West Virginians and Virginians call our Alleghenies Appal-at-chia. Allegheny and Allegany are pronounced the same, just to keep it simple.<BR/><BR/>I don't think the pronounciation issue is a carpetbagger matter, because the rural mountain Rebecca Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06494730619850791609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154805237099408782006-08-05T15:13:00.000-04:002006-08-05T15:13:00.000-04:00I think actually helping someone is very hard. Be...I think actually helping someone is very hard. Better to stay out of their way. To find others on similar paths to your own and share experiences.<BR/><BR/>At least Garth is mucking where he doesn't belong somewhere else instead of in my backyard.<BR/><BR/>Which made me think of the whole missionary paradigm which, madcap, you might more quickly relate to. Not any good but the harm CGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04542303804886924280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154801068722707362006-08-05T14:04:00.000-04:002006-08-05T14:04:00.000-04:00The desire to "do good" is a good thing. But figur...<I>The desire to "do good" is a good thing. But figuring out how to do good, that's another thing.</I><BR/><BR/>Here's a teaching from the Dalai Lama, that I have heard retold several times (ironically?) by Garth. If you want to hurt someone, it makes sense to figure out what you can do that will actually hurt them. Otherwise, you may do something that doesn't hurt them at all. Likewise, if arcolaurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09448256908335690710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154703862075094272006-08-04T11:04:00.000-04:002006-08-04T11:04:00.000-04:00The desire to "do good" is a good thing. But figu...The desire to "do good" is a good thing. But figuring out how to do good, that's another thing. Looking at Scott's Thoreau quote, and my CS Lewis quote, and there are more, it isn't that folks haven't seen this and for a long time. My guess is there is something about Canada that doesn't allow the making a good living off doing "good" in the Maritime.<BR/><BR/>I surfed over to the Good Life CGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04542303804886924280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154697429544890492006-08-04T09:17:00.000-04:002006-08-04T09:17:00.000-04:00You're right, I should see if our library system h...You're right, I should see if our library system has any photo documentary books of Appalachia. Maybe that would help me get my mind around it. <BR/><BR/>But about the "haunted eyes" thing - again, I'm trying to relate that to Canada but it's not working. Out west here nobody ever starts flashing pictures of the Maritimer's "haunted eyes" in order to wring pity from the hearts of prairie folks. Madcaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08966173518099250557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154671513993156932006-08-04T02:05:00.000-04:002006-08-04T02:05:00.000-04:00"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of e...<B><I>"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root, and it may be that he who bestows the largest amount of time and money on the needy is doing the most by his mode of life to produce that misery which he strives in vain to relieve. It is the pious slave-breeder devoting the proceeds of every tenth slave to buy a Sunday's liberty for the rest. Some Hexdek16https://www.blogger.com/profile/14588128744203671494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154663341752914872006-08-03T23:49:00.000-04:002006-08-03T23:49:00.000-04:00i agree about the out siders coming in to educate ...i agree about the out siders coming in to educate you and draw their salary while they do it. my father would have ran such people off his land. makes me think of the do gooder that go to the starving people in africa or where ever and feed them a meal once a day of powdered milk and maybe rice then go into their home on site and eat like kings. their excuse is that they have to stay healthy to patsyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15698348452802053572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154654298339680492006-08-03T21:18:00.000-04:002006-08-03T21:18:00.000-04:00Hey, welcome! I'll be checking you out after that...Hey, welcome! I'll be checking you out after that comment! <BR/><BR/>MadCap, have you ever seen the documentaries and whatnot on the Appalachians? Photo books particularly. I don't know if those images would clarify it at all or not but maybe. I do think perhaps it is something that doesn't have a counterpart where you are. I think we are a people who don't really have a counterpart anywhereCGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04542303804886924280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154630542094237502006-08-03T14:42:00.000-04:002006-08-03T14:42:00.000-04:00This reminded me of the story in yesterday's New Y...This reminded me of the story in yesterday's New York Times about the plan of the wise and beneficent Hillary to bring the poor backward denizens of rural NY state to parity with their sophisticated big-city cousins, the most important element of which seems to be getting those folks broadband internet access.<BR/><BR/>Also reminds me of the offers I'm always turning down from friends of old David Houserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17763800393498414157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154618718332910662006-08-03T11:25:00.000-04:002006-08-03T11:25:00.000-04:00Well, I was trying to think of a comparable situat...Well, I was trying to think of a comparable situation with any particular population in Canada, but I'm coming up short. It might be so in the Maritimes, but I've never lived there (not since I was born there, that is), so I wouldn't know. The Newfies and Capers out this way don't seem to have any bitter words for any helpful councils of that sort.<BR/><BR/>I certainly know about opportunistic Madcaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08966173518099250557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154612002715025012006-08-03T09:33:00.000-04:002006-08-03T09:33:00.000-04:00I love you two boys. I have tried all my life to ...I love you two boys. I have tried all my life to understand this, and I'd love to be able to explain it but I don't seem to be able to. Thanks for understanding.CGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04542303804886924280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154572316219616212006-08-02T22:31:00.000-04:002006-08-02T22:31:00.000-04:00In Appalachian culture, the default state is to vi...In Appalachian culture, the default state is to view oneself as being poor. Nothing wrong with it, it's just the way honest folk are. Nothing to get upset about and nothing to mourn, unless you are making the fiddle wail or the mandolin cry to that 'high lonesome sound'.<BR/><BR/>But once in a while, good times come. Coal booms, cattle sell for high, timber is in demand. You get a good job, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154565926053968562006-08-02T20:45:00.000-04:002006-08-02T20:45:00.000-04:00It's not so much the programs as it is the condesc...It's not so much the programs as it is the condescending yankees running them who come into the area with the notion that they are going to "help" us whether we want the help or not because we're just too ignorant to know what's good for us.H. Stallardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03971418873309568220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154564991211712632006-08-02T20:29:00.000-04:002006-08-02T20:29:00.000-04:00Ok, I'm talking slowly (grin).It is about people w...Ok, I'm talking slowly (grin).<BR/><BR/>It is about people who want to feel like they are "helping" making money off being here, in God's country. It is about prejudice of "how we do it up north". It is about hillbillies being traditionally "uneducated" (but that don't mean they weren't smart, or weren't self-educated either, but you know that isn't too well recognized). It is about CGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04542303804886924280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154562326680250392006-08-02T19:45:00.000-04:002006-08-02T19:45:00.000-04:00All I can figure from that website is that they're...All I can figure from that website is that they're trying to urbanize the population. Is that getting close to the mark? What do their programs do? Who avails themselves of them? <BR/><BR/>And why you folks? Is it just because your population has been so rural when the rest of North America has slowly been trickling, streaming, flooding into cities? Is it an urban prejudice or something that I Madcaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08966173518099250557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154552152771893092006-08-02T16:55:00.000-04:002006-08-02T16:55:00.000-04:00As to whose idea it was, I think you can blame Bob...As to whose idea it was, I think you can blame Bobby Kennedy mostly, although it was John who did PARC and Lyndon who signed it to law.<BR/><BR/>But more to get is that there is here a culture that people are always trying to exploit, come in, change, and get rich of doing so (relatively).<BR/><BR/>This stupid woman came to my home(land) to "educate" me and is going to do that by telling me that CGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04542303804886924280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154551354612022892006-08-02T16:42:00.000-04:002006-08-02T16:42:00.000-04:00They're the damn yankees that are going to save th...They're the damn yankees that are going to save the poor ignorant Hillbillies from themselves and their poverty stricken culture.<BR/><BR/>Go here to their web site,<BR/><BR/>http://www.arc.gov/index.jspH. Stallardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03971418873309568220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7977441.post-1154548554369091642006-08-02T15:55:00.000-04:002006-08-02T15:55:00.000-04:00I really don't understand about the Apple-a-chian ...I really don't understand about the Apple-a-chian Regional Commission. What exactly is it that you're being saved from, and whose idea was it in the first place?Madcaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08966173518099250557noreply@blogger.com